change starts here.

learn how to build, maintain, and improve your family relationships with actionable tools to help you navigate difficult situations.

join David & Heidi in the "light the fight" podcast.    


Your hosts

 Meet Heidi Swapp, a wife, mom, entrepreneur and influencer of women. And meet David Kozlowski, a licensed marriage and family therapist.  This unlikely duo was brought together by the death of Heidi’s son Cory, who passed away from suicide in July of 2015.  But although this team has its roots in a tough and tragic reality, what has arisen is a truly unique learning opportunity for any parent. In 2017, Heidi and David decided to team up to create a podcast that brings light to tough topics related to personal and family relationships. Welcome to "Light the Fight!"


the podcast

Heidi and David discuss information, tools and strategies that have helped her these past few years to learn, grow and understand the complexities of these relationships. Heidi is not a typical mom, and David is not a typical therapist. The unique combination of relatable info, sense of humor and honest expression through personal stories makes this show a ‘must listen’ for parents who are genuinely looking for help to connect with their kids, and improve the quality of their relationships.

Heidi, I feel blessed to know you and the willingness you and David have made this information accessible to everyone. There is information that I really needed in my life!